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Sending Thanks and Love to the Ladies Who Stuck Around and A Chat About the Future of ThePinkPill.co

So for those of you who don't know, for the past day I've been arguing with a lot of women, many of which aren't even a part of this project, because a former user decided on the day a male troll got our sub banned, to run around to all the female based subs and say I tricked people into believe this is a woman only site. I have always said this place is "like Reddit for women" with a lot of great ideas for how ThePinkPill will change some things online and social conversation.

For all the people who haven't noticed the massive amounts of influence these misogynists groups have been inflicting on dating life, young men everywhere, social media, which directly affect US. Because rising misogyny is a problem for US. This is why we want based conversations for all women, regardless of their lifestyles, in response as an entire movement. This is why every post on the Reddit sub was about properly questioning what we see and how to best strategize. This is not just about a few women hanging out on a site. I would like to build a network and encourage more female space online that men cannot take away.

I was given a great idea by another former user that I will be implementing on here on our software update so that in the future, no one can act like they did not hear me when I said this

When someone new signs up, they will be informed that out of the entirety of the site, where men cannot create subs, men who support ThePinkPill and it's messaging and do not derail with male centric comments will be allowed in +General (this might change to a different sub) and whatever Ask sub might be available. There is one long term project that they are relevant to, and again completely separate from the rest of the site. This gives a direct line where questions can be asked, tough conversations can be had, support could be rallied for wherever they take it.

Women will have the opportunity at that moment to block whatever sub or subs that is before even entering the site and the option will always be available to you.

You will always see male trolls try to storm the place, this is the open internet. Just report and remove. This policy has been in place since we opened and you don't see these comments often because it works really well and barely any men can make it which is why they get site banned so much.

I don't bring attention to it by doing "invites" but after today's shit show with all the drama and hysteria like I'm out there welcoming men here, some attention definitely has been brought.

The character assassination from women who've relied on my support, from women who enjoyed the space extended happens a lot. A lot of super vindictive women who are friends until things don't happen how they demand. I've heard some ugly rumors they have been saying to each other and all the men they hang out with (lol, seriously). They do this for months and months and recruit others in the shit talking and thats just how that goes.

Ultimately, I'm committed to crafting the best platform and mobile apps I can, however long it takes, to serve this community and have it delight the people here.

We will always work to amplify other women, other female spaces. If you fit here, great. If you don't, over time we will become a good resource that can help you find your people. There is nothing wrong with not needing ThePinkPill.

I want all the women who love the idea of love, wholesomeness, dating, silliness, whatever they are into to find a home here too. I want to eventually have a "wholesome" filter where you toggle a switch and the site can filter only positive vibes for those who need a break from the doom and gloom.

However I have to do it, I will get it done. All these misrepresentations is you watching supposedly pro-women trying to destroy a female place from male sites that they complain about. It makes sense to see why this is a challenging thing to take on when this is how people treat you on a dime.

Try to remember the immense investment in this and the intention in this. Giving me a hard time without realistic solutions doesn't help the over venture. Nothing is perfect but we will have better than before since no social media platform see fit to provide that to us.

Always happy to answer questions, and anyone who wants to help, a subreddit ban appeal would be helpful. Imagine if I had all the outrage I saw today in SUPPORT of the sub these women were all bonding on yesterday.

Anyway, thanks for reading

Also, the ridiculous women who are acting like male trolls wait on invites and subs to attack as the basis of why I shouldn't use all resources are beyond short sighted and need to stop.

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<3 Hang in there. Hopefully these are mere growing pains and PinkPill will be better for withstanding it.

❤️❤️❤️ I appreciate that, thank you!

The experience had me stumble upon a couple of new ideas so I'm already getting excited again :). I'll take it easy but a fire's lit!

Way to go

I'mma see if I can donate again. Gotta be after Christmas. ┐(‘~`;)┌

❤️❤️❤️ anytime, however you can, it always counts to us all. Thank you so much for being here and believing in TPP

You're welcome Giga!

I see no point in villainizing women. It’s males who ban reddit subs, doxx supporters, this one male who took down this site. Gossiping about your bf or disagreeing with site policy won’t do much. Even “spreading misinformation” will just foster curiosity and bring more people here. I was also surprised to learn couple months ago (from discord!) that moids are welcomed here. You didn’t face the abuse from men so you don’t understand where these women are coming from. Regarding men being providers because two of them donated 200 bucks and thus all males deserve a place to be here – men make more on average, and they’re well known for throwing money for 2 seconds of entertainment. You don’t know their motives that’s all I’m saying.

This comment is long bc it is essentially a post providing insight to anyone who cares about what happened here. It also allows me to document because by my count, it'll be another couple of months before the next round of accusations and misinformation campaign. 12/04/2021


1/2 I am not really sure why people, you included, keep misrepresenting what I said about males being here. It is beyond bewildering. It's not like it is not in print.

Aren't you specifically one of the women who argued with me directly about my plans for this ages ago? You knew my position on this and now you are here saying

Regarding men being providers because two of them donated 200 bucks and thus all males deserve a place to be here

Where did I say that anywhere? I will never get used to how some of you work.

We can barely get enough mods here to do the work that needs to be done but you want me to pledge on the open internet to check for gender at the door of a growing platform. On my own at that like I don't have enough on my plate.

These are not practical demands nor is it practical to believe that literally every male that ever exists cannot possibly have an interest.

And anyway, this is part of a specific long term strategy for a social media campaign I am working on that not only helps our growth but also normalizes TPP in the mainstream conversation on social media and off, which is to our benefit as women.

You don't need to get it, when I explain these things I get ignored and lied about. So long as the parts of the site and app that work for you keep working for you, I don't see much of an issue and that goes for everyone.

Block the offending subs, problem solved. It's a lie to act like I invited a bunch of men here when what I said was there are specific spaces, that men who don't break our content policy may be found. Our content policy - comments that center men get removed, comments that center women's issues can stay. If the site and our sub has been fine for you all this time, it means it works exactly as I said. I cannot make this any more clear.

I see no point in villainizing women.

Talking about what happened isn't "villainizing" anyone. It was not your personal sacrifices, character, or intent being maligned up and down for the crime of extending a space to people who didn't extend a space to you. On the say so of one random malicious woman in a blink of an eye.

If you forgot how we even got here, after the ban wave and all these female Redditors had no where to land, I made a space for our community so we would never be displaced again with the commitment to create something that will spoil the fuck out of our users the way men have all these spaces that cater to them. For context, I have absolutely zero technical background with a career, education, and commitments.

I decided I didn't this it was right any other female community end up in this position moving forward and that this needed to be something wayyy bigger since all these platforms have been putting women last. What would be more impactful than a rise of a femosphere where female spaces online pop up everywhere, build the sprawling networks that men currently enjoy? Imagine? When MGTOW and other depraved male spaces got banned, they not only had functional HIGHLY active alternatives to land, they have plenty of true believers who code and volunteer time and resources. Women had none of that. What year is it.

Now, if you forgot how shitty some of these other female communities were to me and to us, here is a recap of FDS banning and smearing femcels, ThePinkPill, radfems, WGTOW

https://ovarit.com/o/WomensLiberation/36728/fds-actively-smears-radical-feminism-grouping-it-with-wgtow-and-femcels

All our examples are chronicled on the now banned sub so that is just one off the top of my head. Over and over, you will see women talking so much shit about anyone here, removing posts and invites, treating everyone here with suspicion

Ok so here, you can find FDS mod u/ModernMedusa who was a regular at r/ThePinkPills, /u/pinkpilledrecruiter aka /u/oh_shit_oh_ fuck of FDS posting about the long banned ThePinkPill... on FDS for ridicule

despite FDS forbidding ThePinkPill from the jump. "Women doing it for ourseeelves by kneecapping women we randomly decide we don't like. Who needs men"

https://www.reddit.com/r/FemaleDatingStrategy/comments/r7k3fy/if_any_of_you_have_made_an_account_on/

There are several more FDS mod regulars who've been around. FDS never helped us get the word out despite my avid support for them and that is fine. My one, well received post about Pretty Privilege when I did not pitch ThePinkPIll.co got me banned with a hostile mod message about shilling ThePinkPill. So understand

They have over 200k users, monetize their work offline, have a podcast, a site, social media, whole teams and have not successfully, to date, replicate their Reddit presence off of Reddit. Male run services. If they have all of that, why haven't these women executed this instead of calling me names? I'm a pick-me handmaiden for operating in reality with the most limited resources for women?

Here, you kind find former user @timoclea, who has long been serviced by this site with this active policy just fine until some other women decided to do all this

https://ovarit.com/o/Women/51821/i-m-sorry-that-i-helped-advertise-for-thepinkpill-co-here-i-no-longer-believe-it

This is a light version of the work that multiple women have been doing on Discord and Reddit.

The sub for BlackPillFeminism, a group that has very little tolerance for most women and welcome no where have been welcomed here, despite their low opinions of myself and others here, and left alone to run how they want. I have been transparent since day 1 which is why their mod puts in the description for the sub "Women-Only". So men know not to even try it. Same bunch of BlackPillFeminists who cannot stomach this idea of hypothetical men in this "surprise bait and switch" run back to male-run Reddit where their sub is not allowed.

and ALL of this because a documented male troll decided to file a fake report just like what happened last year. This was the sacred "female solidarity" we received and the support I got as I get painted as some giant traitor to women.

Gossiping about your bf or disagreeing with site policy won’t do much.

a)

People who were former mods and officers of our server getting up one day making nasty shit up about money and suicide to misogynists for attention isn't nothing.

It's actually kind of weird how 100% of the women who stormed out of the server due to, again, one co-ed channel they refuse to block bc "men existing is so intolerable" are all in incel and redpill servers as long time regulars who spend months talking shit about me just for functioning as I always have with this policy. People I've helped with their personal problems, kept their secrets, supported in dark hours. It takes no time for the switch up

These are people who volunteered to be in charge of our services. This should tell you about the kind of instability that comes with a much needed volunteer workforce for things like mod and how some of these people actually turn out.

An entire server where only one channel allowed men and all the other channels had private rooms and whatever ... those women ignored ALL of those and were most active where the men are.

Why?

Because just like on the now banned r/AskTruFemcels, a long time co-ed sub that brought a lot to our community, they were able to engage with the men on a leash and some women want that. I have always catered to both groups of women but some people decide one day I owe them something and I am required to shut things down on their say so instead of them using available tools like to block like adults, the bring on the drama.

What is the narrative that's been pushed for months? "Giga protects men and is a pick me because she hates women"

After seeing this lunacy, I de-prioritized this server 100% to focus on this site and outreach on-top of my already full schedule. It will be revamped in a few months for integration on here with our new upgrade. There are no voice verifications going, its not being advertised or monitored beyond anything breaking Discords rules until future notice.

b)

"Disagreeing with site policy won't do much" -- agreed if anyone acted normal about it. But what specifically happened when you saw me work daily to get traffic here, after asking for help a million times to crickets.

That generation of content on Reddit without other female subs helping us is how me and Green have been raising public consciousness and getting women here. This was done in lieu of a marketing budget. You might not understand how the reputation of the place impacts its longevity but it doesn't mean "it doesn't do much".

I was also surprised to learn couple months ago (from discord!) that moids are welcomed here.

You have been on this site long enough to see this policy in action. So you can attest to what "welcome" means and why you choose to represent it the way you are considering how long you've been here.

You didn’t face the abuse from men so you don’t understand where these women are coming from.

With respect, please to not confuse seeing my username all the time with actually knowing me irl. You don't know what my first hand experiences with men are.

It is not rational thought to equate a platform where men who follow the rules are restricted to a couple of subs with "You don't understand where abused women are coming from".

A person can block a sub if it were ever that bad.

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A person can block a sub if it were ever that bad. Just like they do with subs with women who have strong opinions they disagree with.

Abused women are gathering in giant dens of literal predators every day on Reddit just to have their subs and get meaningful support. They weather a hostile environment to do so. So if they are able, to characterize our environment here like some anti-victim haven is beyond the pale.


At the end of the day, ThePinkPill.co is not only for women who absolutely cannot stand men. This isn't an anti-men site.

It's a site for all based women and there IS a difference.

It is just a coincidence that surprises no one that any space that allows HONEST conversations about men results in women who are disgusted, angry, hurt, and depressed. It is the pink pill reality of the lives of women and HOW we choose to deal with that is a personal lifestyle choice.

We at ThePinkPill only insist that women learn how to think strategically about how to optimize ANY lifestyle choice, centering FEMALE needs and interests -- your own.

So it's not just the anti-men crowd welcome here. This site welcomes all sorts of other groups many of you don't agree with like r/Diabla, sugar babies, ace women, dark triad everything, black women divestors, beauty obsessed women, Tradcon women, women who love men, women who love women, literally all of them.

Diversity of thought makes us stronger, smarter strategists.

We all know women's spaces tend to cut off anyone who disagrees with them. They can do that here too but with the added benefit of "the town square" like +General and r/ThePinkPills which humanizes all these different types of women by allowing discussions, without personal attacks, for those who care to have them in mixed company. Those who don't want to can easily opt out by blocking the sub.

If ThePinkPill.co is

  • a gender flipped Reddit
  • for all types of women
  • with a mission to boost more female spaces online
  • and a mission to teach more women how to be pink pilled, and therefore prioritize their own needs from any walk of life

It stands to reason that some women who want to talk to men, have a space to talk to men. So long as the men who are in those specific and avoidable corners of the site don't bring their bs here. People who hate those spaces never have to see them. I'm not going to accept the silly presentation of me crippling women who refuse to use the block sub feature.

I am always happy to answer questions, and hear ideas but I will not be bullied by fair-weather feminists and remarkably entitled women who have every bit of capability to build their desired zero-male sites on their own.

If anything, it is to the benefit of women everywhere that they do because it means we all went from having ZERO alternatives for female spaces to two, three, and who knows how many else. We WANT that, we support more female spaces online and I'll happily post a link where women who need it may see it.

I am thankful to my friend who reminded me last night to remember my "why" and find my true north.

I will continue serving this community to the best of my ability and any other communities of women who find value in what we are doing here. Those who hate the idea of this place are best served elsewhere and that is always okay.

I am done defending myself. Feel free to use this post as a reference moving forward.

I'm new here so don't understand what's the whole drama is about. Free speech is good, am I right? I appreciate that BPF is welcomed here, because I've seen some users attacking it. Meanwhile some women (radfem I believe?) attack lib fem and vice versa. But we need to put our differences aside, because at our core we all want a good life for ourselves and all women. I'd say look at men/sex neutral reddit alternatives. Do they obsess over not allowing women there? If sub moderators can make no-men rule, then what's the problem? Someone can create a sub where they allow men, it's their right? If it ever becomes a huge problem, it can be reassessed.

And those people who are all about some special secret invites, voice recording/video proof of womanhood, etc are just so lame. Men don't go to such lengths to forbid women from their communities. If someone becomes a problem on their websites, they ban that person, that's all.

Welcome ❤ and thank you! You have no idea how refreshing it is to cross paths with a woman who gets it

And for men its far more restrictive anyway because they cant comment on over 99% of the site and where they CAN comment, it still can't be male centric

The spirit of TPP is exactly about putting differences aside at least in the common areas or people can opt not to deal with those

But some people just can't do that. Frankly, if it weren't for the slanderous press tour and sending me hateful messages, there wouldn't be anything to discuss. These doors were specifically opened to women who aren't served well anywhere else

BPF is still welcome here as always female subs continue to be despite it being a number of their members leading the charge. No idea how these women were amongst the depraved on SaidIt yet come here, despite me going through this thoroughly with their head mod, and act like that.

Anyway one of my heaviest focus is on adding privacy controls and making things ultra easy on mobile and web to control what you see, when you wanna see it

I generally think less rules are better than more rules/censorship. Can always add more rules later if things become bad, but vice versa transition is harder to pull off. I understand some women are so tired of men they want to go completely nuclear with policies here, but come on lol As long as we don't turn into something like /r/TwoXchromosomes where I heard more than half commenters are men, we are good to go.

Anyways nevermind the haters! And I think even those who leave negative comments, still appreciate this site, else they'd have left by now. It's easy to criticize when you're a spectator and not the one putting effort into the project. Kind of like that Man on the Arena speech.

i support you giga, i've been following you since 2018/2019 and i know you're genuine with everything you believe and try to work towards

this was the sweetest message and made me smile. Thank you so much (( hugs ))